|
|
Post by TimesOldRoman on Jun 25, 2003 23:08:10 GMT -5
So I've been doing alot of thinking lately, and I've come up with two decent reasons why "The Amalgamut" wasn't that successful.
1.) TOR Fever. The success of TOR was main due to the hit single Take A Picture, which was a great tune that struck a chord with radio listeners everywhere, however, with TA, the formula should have been changed.
You see, back when TOR came out, there was not nearly as much Nu-Metal/Crap out on the radio and kicking around. The hard hitting album, combined with the sensual sound of Take A Picture was a winning combination.
Times changed in the few years though. Now crap/Nu-Metal is all over the airwaves, so the same hand can't be played. I think if they would have promoted a song like "American Cliche" or "So I quit" or "Colubmind", or anything else that was hard hitting, the niche in the radio would have clicked easily. And the game plan could be played from there on out.
2.) Rich going into rehab was a doosey. Even if the first reason from above didn't work out, the constant touring, especially the billing from the "Miller Tour" (with its HUGE publicity), could have worked their way back into the spotlight, and gotten the recognition they deserve.
But what can you do? It's not in our control. So I'm just gonna keep wishing for a dream Filter/NIN concert one day.
And most of all, I guess it sorta makes it more special for the people who really appreciate the greatness of Filter.
|
|
|
|
Post by admin on Jun 25, 2003 23:31:48 GMT -5
2.) Rich going into rehab was a doosey. Even if the first reason from above didn't work out, the constant touring, especially the billing from the "Miller Tour" (with its HUGE publicity), could have worked their way back into the spotlight, and gotten the recognition they deserve. Fuck you jackass! -wark- |
|
|
|
Post by l to the ennix on Jun 25, 2003 23:37:56 GMT -5
wark...I could be wrong, but I don't think he was blaming Richard for rehab, just stating its effects.
|
|
|
|
Post by admin on Jun 25, 2003 23:41:05 GMT -5
meh, maybe he was...who knows....it just still really pisses the fuck out of me when ever people bitch and moan about Rich caring more about his health than his music.
-wark-
|
|
|
|
Post by RichFactWebmistress on Jun 25, 2003 23:53:43 GMT -5
I agree with you, Wark. While Times might not have meant to say that Rich ought to value his music career over life and health, the way the post came off was poorly worded.
I know all of us would have wished to see Filter continue to tour and get the word out about the record, but I'd still have records and more of them in the future than tour that might have ended very badly. And I don't just mean because of cancellation for rehab, either.
RFW
|
|
|
|
Post by FilterdinBoston on Jun 26, 2003 0:01:14 GMT -5
Umm,...maybe its just me,...but i think he was just stating that Rich's NECESSITY to take care of himself first (heh,...can you tell i'm covering my ass?) and the fact that touring is a huge part of an album's success was a reason why the album didnt do as well as TOR. I didnt get any vibe from the guy that he was being critical.
Chill, Wark, bro, chill!
-Boston
|
|
|
|
Post by unwillingsong on Jun 26, 2003 10:27:51 GMT -5
Is it a full moon?
|
|
|
|
Post by B13 on Jun 26, 2003 10:32:36 GMT -5
Well I've started howling at the moon again and have also been seen chasing the postman... (P.S. I am JOKING, BTW... ;D ) |
|
|
|
Post by TimesOldRoman on Jun 27, 2003 21:30:31 GMT -5
Hey man, chill out...Jeez. I was simply stating that a big reason why the Amalgamut didn't do so well was because they couldn't tour to support the album. It's an important aspect of being a successful rock band. Even if you don't have music videos or get air play, touring is key. |
|
|
|
Post by WetWorks on Jun 27, 2003 22:44:31 GMT -5
[glow=blue,2,300]Touring is only as successful as the artist makes it.. If the artist don't feel like he/she/they are doing what the feel like they should be doing, its best that they make it to where they can.. in this case, Patrick took care of his life.. 2 points to him. [/glow]
|
|
|
|
Post by Chels on Jun 28, 2003 3:53:53 GMT -5
Well I've started howling at the moon again and have also been seen chasing the postman... (P.S. I am JOKING, BTW... ;D ) Sure, L, we believe you. I know that you've got a special fondness for postmen... |
|
|
|
Post by admin on Jun 28, 2003 4:02:34 GMT -5
Times changed in the few years though. Now crap/Nu-Metal is all over the airwaves, so the same hand can't be played. I think if they would have promoted a song like "American Cliche" or "So I quit" or "Colubmind", or anything else that was hard hitting, the niche in the radio would have clicked easily. And the game plan could be played from there on out. And 'American Cliche" was released as a single. |
|
|
|
Post by Karmal on Jul 4, 2003 13:33:28 GMT -5
I'm new here and all but I'll give my comment anyway. Really, I think everyone would love to see Filter on top where they deserve to be and everything, and from the material on TA I think they could have. But in all reality I'd much rather see Richard go into rehab and recover and be able to put out more great music then him get big, not being in rehab, and possibly... I dunno how to word it but more or less most bands that have a frontman or any part of major importance that has alcohol/drug problems (Alice in Chains comes to mind) they end up breaking up or meeting a tragic end. I think any AIC fan really, really wishes that Layne woulda tried some type of recovery so that they might have been able to put out more CDs. Any non-AIC fans, don't think this part really matters to you, but I'm sure you've seen a band you've liked meet that fate.
Great music is, well, great. But whether the band is more popular has no effect on how good the CD is. Maybe after his recovery and next album which I think will probably go over better then even TOR because I've always felt his better songs are his more personal ones I'm Not the Only One for example and most people after a rehab stint seem to put out more personal stuff. I think he'll keep with the formula that's worked well for him with the hard rock songs and indulging in softer, more personal ones. And if it clicks with the MTV masses, hey, who knows? Maybe the people will buy TA and find out what they've been missing.
Oh well, just my thoughts.
|
|
|
|
Post by unwillingsong on Jul 4, 2003 14:15:32 GMT -5
I'm new here and all but I'll give my comment anyway. Really, I think everyone would love to see Filter on top where they deserve to be and everything, and from the material on TA I think they could have. But in all reality I'd much rather see Richard go into rehab and recover and be able to put out more great music then him get big, not being in rehab, and possibly... I dunno how to word it but more or less most bands that have a frontman or any part of major importance that has alcohol/drug problems (Alice in Chains comes to mind) they end up breaking up or meeting a tragic end. I think any AIC fan really, really wishes that Layne woulda tried some type of recovery so that they might have been able to put out more CDs. Any non-AIC fans, don't think this part really matters to you, but I'm sure you've seen a band you've liked meet that fate. Great music is, well, great. But whether the band is more popular has no effect on how good the CD is. Maybe after his recovery and next album which I think will probably go over better then even TOR because I've always felt his better songs are his more personal ones I'm Not the Only One for example and most people after a rehab stint seem to put out more personal stuff. I think he'll keep with the formula that's worked well for him with the hard rock songs and indulging in softer, more personal ones. And if it clicks with the MTV masses, hey, who knows? Maybe the people will buy TA and find out what they've been missing. Oh well, just my thoughts. Yeah, well said, Karmal. And welcome to the board!  |
|
<--- Filter live 2002
